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    #154 Stanford Prism Experiment (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

    en-usDecember 24, 2022

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    • Exploring important topics with live Q&A sessionsThe Dark Horse Podcast continues to tackle significant issues, engaging audience through live Q&A sessions, and is available on various platforms with weekly writings and audience support.

      The Dark Horse Podcast, despite the unusual circumstances and challenges, continues to explore important topics such as the Stanford Bad Word List and trans issues. The hosts encourage audience engagement through live Q&A sessions and invite questions at darkhorseummissions.com. The podcast is available on multiple platforms including Odysee and YouTube, with a 15-minute break between the end of the show and the start of the Q&A session. The hosts also share their thoughts and ideas in their weekly writings, which can be found on Substack.com. The podcast is supported by its audience, who are encouraged to subscribe, like, share, and engage with the content. Despite facing challenges, the hosts remain committed to delivering valuable and thought-provoking discussions.

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    • Be mindful of the impact of our wordsAvoid perpetuating harmful stereotypes or unintentionally causing offense by being thoughtful and considerate in our use of language

      Language is a complex and nuanced tool, and it's important to consider the historical and cultural contexts behind certain phrases. In the discussion, it was pointed out that some phrases have problematic origins and can be hurtful or exclusionary. For instance, "brown bag" was historically used in a discriminatory way by certain black sororities and fraternities, and "abusive relationship" can be misunderstood to refer to the relationship itself rather than the abusive person. Instead, it's recommended to use phrases like "lunch and learn" or "tech talk" for "brown bag," and "relationship with an abusive person" for "abusive relationship." The goal is to be mindful of the impact of our words and to avoid perpetuating harmful stereotypes or unintentionally causing offense. It's also important to remember that the intent behind a phrase doesn't always matter – what's important is the effect it has on others. Ultimately, the discussion underscores the importance of being thoughtful and considerate in our use of language, and recognizing the power we have to shape the way people see the world through the words we choose to use.

    • The Power of Words and Their ImplicationsBe mindful of the words we use and their potential impact, considering the context and power dynamics at play.

      Language and words can be subjective and carry different meanings or connotations for different people. Some individuals and groups may advocate for certain words or phrases to be avoided due to their potential to cause harm or reinforce negative stereotypes. However, this can also be seen as an attempt to establish a rule that can be selectively enforced based on the speaker's identity or status. This was compared to a low posted speed limit, where law enforcement could choose to enforce the rule against certain individuals. The discussion also touched on the use of terms like "mind virus," "prostitute," "submit," and "seminal," and the potential implications and controversies surrounding these words. Ultimately, it's important to consider the context and potential impact of the words we use, and be mindful of the power dynamics at play.

    • Being aware of the cultural significance of wordsAvoid using terms like 'spirit animal' and 'American' without understanding their cultural implications and be sensitive to the context in which we use language.

      The term "spirit animal" is a deeply rooted concept in certain cultures, and using it without understanding its significance can be seen as culturally appropriative. Additionally, the use of the term "American" to refer to people from the United States can be perceived as insensitive in other parts of the Americas, where the term "American" includes citizens from multiple countries. It's important to be aware of the potential implications of our words and consider the context in which we use them. The controversy surrounding the Stanford University list of offensive language may not have been thoroughly investigated, and some of the items on the list may be more nuanced than they appear at first glance. It's crucial to approach such issues with sensitivity and an open mind, and to strive for understanding and respect for all cultures and communities.

    • The distraction of policing languageFocusing on specific offensive words instead of addressing root causes of issues can be a power grab and hinder inclusivity. Instead, promote understanding and open dialogue to foster a society where everyone feels valued and respected.

      The obsession with policing language, particularly when it comes to terms that may be considered offensive or exclusive, can often distract from addressing the root causes of issues and instead serve as a power grab for those who are not directly affected. The speaker shares their personal experience with the term "gringo" and how its meaning has evolved over time. They argue that while some terms may be offensive, simply avoiding them does not solve the underlying problem. Instead, it is important to understand that language is a tool and to focus on promoting inclusivity and understanding through open dialogue and education. The speaker also criticizes lists that aim to dictate acceptable language, as they can create an impossible standard for inclusivity and limit individuality and uniqueness. Ultimately, the goal should be to foster a society where everyone feels valued and respected, rather than focusing on the specific words used to describe them.

    • Inflexible adherence to regulations denies opportunitiesExcessive compliance can limit opportunities for all, even in education and travel. Allow for judgement calls and build discretion into systems.

      Excessive adherence to compliance regulations can limit opportunities for all, even in educational and travel contexts. An example from a conference discussion involved a Title 9 compliance officer insisting that a study abroad program in the Amazon be canceled if it couldn't accommodate a student in a wheelchair. This inflexible stance denied opportunities to everyone involved, including the student. The best approach is to build discretion into systems and allow for judgement calls when necessary. Comparing this to the story of self-cleaning public bathrooms being removed due to ADA non-compliance, it's clear that denying access to those who can't use a facility doesn't benefit the excluded individuals. Instead, it's essential to acknowledge and address the limitations of situations while maintaining the integrity of the program for those who can participate.

    • Respecting language and identityRecognize the power of language and respect people's identities, allowing them the freedom to define themselves without imposing irrelevant or outdated labels. Strive for changes that promote inclusivity and solve real problems.

      Authenticity and respect are key when it comes to language and identity. Pretending or enforcing identities based on assumptions can be harmful and damaging, especially when it comes to issues like transgender rights. The use of language is a powerful tool, and it's important to recognize the historical context and biases that shape it. For instance, the lack of a neutral honorific for adult women in the English language once revealed sexism, and the addition of "Ms." as an option filled a necessary gap. Similarly, it's essential to respect people's identities and allow them the freedom to define themselves without imposing irrelevant or outdated labels. Language evolves, and we should strive for changes that solve real problems and promote inclusivity.

    • Considering the implications of new languageBe thoughtful and considerate when creating new terms. Engage in open dialogue and allow language to evolve naturally.

      While language evolves and new concepts may require new words, it's important to be thoughtful and considerate in creating those new terms. Architecting changes to language without a clear need can lead to confusion and misunderstanding. For instance, the use of terms like "assigned sex" and "cisgender privilege" may not accurately reflect the current understanding or reality of gender and identity. Instead, it's crucial to engage in open and respectful dialogue, allowing language to evolve naturally as we continue to learn and grow. Ultimately, the goal should be to facilitate clear and effective communication, rather than forcing changes for the sake of change.

    • Speaker challenges the notion of 'cisgender privilege'The speaker questioned the need for cisgender individuals to label themselves and disputed the claim that they have unfair advantages, arguing that such access is a right, not a privilege.

      The concept of "cisgender privilege" and the use of labels like "cis" and "trans" can be a contentious issue. During a discussion, the speaker expressed their disagreement with the notion that cisgender individuals need to label themselves as such. They argued that the term "cis" was created by a minority group to make it seem that the majority's identity is not what it appears to be. The speaker also disputed the claim that cisgender individuals have unfair advantages in areas like healthcare access, stating that such access is a right, not a privilege. The speaker acknowledged the need for a term to compare transgender and cisgender identities but objected to the idea that cisgender individuals should feel compelled to label themselves. The speaker also criticized the term "cisgender privilege" as ambiguous and misleading. The speaker's perspective challenges the popular understanding of these concepts and highlights the complexities of identity and privilege.

    • Recognizing linguistic dark agesDuring periods of societal unrest, it's crucial to acknowledge and document accurate and nuanced reporting to preserve the collective understanding of language and meaning.

      Language and the meanings of words can evolve and change over time, but the fundamental concepts they represent often remain constant. During periods where certain groups may attempt to redefine or restrict the use of certain terms, it can be helpful to recognize and label such periods as a "linguistic dark age." This concept acknowledges that the restrictions on language use may not last forever and that the collective intuition and understanding of the meaning of words often prevails. Jeremy Lin Quinn, a journalist known for his even-handed reporting and ability to document history as it unfolds, recently interviewed a transgender fugitive named Darren Merrigar during a period of societal unrest. Merrigar's actions sparked controversy and led to protests, and while he was on the run, Quinn sat down with him to discuss his experiences and perspectives. Despite the divisive nature of the topic and the ongoing debates surrounding language and identity, Quinn's work serves as a reminder of the importance of accurate and nuanced reporting during times of societal change.

    • The complexities of gender identity and the legal systemThe Darren Meriger case highlights the need for a nuanced understanding of gender identity and the challenges of implementing policies that accommodate diverse gender expressions and identities in the legal system.

      The case of Darren Meriger, a transgender man who was charged with indecent exposure after entering a women's locker room at a Koreatown spa in 2021, highlights the complexities and challenges surrounding gender identity and the legal system. Meriger, who identifies as non-binary but has a male body, was accused of exposing himself to women in the locker room. The incident sparked protests and a national debate on trans rights. In an interview, Meriger clarified that he identifies as a female but does not conform to traditional feminine appearances or behaviors. He argued that he is not faking his identity and that gender is internal while sex is external. However, his actions raised questions about the legitimacy of his claim to women's spaces and the potential misuse of California's gender self-identification law. The incident underscores the need for a nuanced understanding of gender identity and the complexities of implementing policies that aim to accommodate diverse gender expressions and identities.

    • Navigating the complexities of identity and societal rulesUnderstanding identity fluidity and the potential benefits of legal transitions, while acknowledging concerns regarding criminal records and personal gain.

      The discussion revolves around the complex issue of identity and the application of rules in society. The speaker acknowledges the prevalence of confusion and the fluidity of identity, and expresses understanding towards an individual who identifies as female and has legally transitioned, despite engaging in heterosexual relationships with women. The speaker also highlights the potential benefits and privileges that come with this legal change, such as safety and reduced fear. However, the speaker expresses concern when the individual in question has a criminal record and has used the new rules to gain access to women's spaces, potentially putting women at risk. The speaker argues that those who change the rules for their own gain are despicable, but expresses sympathy for individuals who navigate society's rules as best they can. The conversation raises questions about the morality of utilizing rules for personal gain, the responsibility of those in power to create fair and sensible rules, and the complexities of identity and its intersection with societal norms and criminal records.

    • Complexities and controversies of gender identity and application of rules for transgender individualsConcerns over misidentification and discrimination arise when rules for transgender individuals are applied inconsistently and based on personal biases, leading to potential harm and confusion.

      The discussion revolves around the complexities and controversies surrounding gender identity and the application of rules and discretion in regards to transgender individuals. The speaker expresses concern over a world where dangerous people can create their own rules and decide who is flagged for breaking them, potentially leading to misidentification and discrimination. An example given is the case of a man who identifies as trans but is perceived as male due to his physical appearance, and the speaker questions whether he is genuinely confused or manipulating the system. The conversation also touches upon the distinction between transgender and transsexual identities, with the speaker arguing that only those who undergo physical and hormonal transitions are "authentic" transgender individuals. The speaker's stance is that individuals should be free to identify as they choose and that there should be consistency in the application of rules, regardless of personal beliefs or biases.

    • The complex relationship between gender identity and medical interventionsGender identity and physical modifications are interconnected but not the same. Individuals should be allowed to self-identify, but safety and privacy in women-only spaces must be considered.

      The relationship between long-standing gender identity and modern medical interventions is a complex issue. While some argue that gender identity is distinct from physical modifications, others believe that gender identity is real. The speaker expresses skepticism towards an individual's claim to be trans without evidence of dysphoria or confusion. However, they agree that individuals should not be allowed in women's spaces if they pose a threat. The speaker criticizes the activists' stance of "you're female if you say you're female unless we say you're not," but also acknowledges the need to establish a standard for determining gender on legal documents. The speaker's position is that gender identity should not be the sole determinant of legal status or access to women-only spaces. Instead, there should be a balance between respecting individuals' self-identification and ensuring the safety and privacy of women.

    • Rules and Reality: Blurred Lines in Identity and AccessThe importance of re-establishing a connection between reality and discretion, and the need for clear-cut rules to prevent misuse and maintain order.

      The rules surrounding identity and access to certain spaces have become blurred, leading to ambiguities and potential misuse. This discussion revolves around a man who identifies as female but was found in a women's spa, despite being biologically male and having a criminal record for peering into a window of an elderly woman. The argument here is not about excusing his behavior, but rather questioning the insanity of a rule that disregards biological reality. The conversation also touches upon the normalization of creepiness in society and the need for clear-cut rules to address these issues. The underlying theme is the importance of re-establishing a connection between reality and discretion, and the need for unambiguous rules to prevent misuse and maintain order.

    • Importance of clear rules and unbiased enforcementClear rules and unbiased enforcement are essential to protect the rights of all individuals and prevent harm. Discretionary systems can lead to harm and bias, as seen in the case of Dana Rivers.

      Discretionary systems, where judgments are made based on selective enforcement and personal biases, can lead to harm and create a "hellscape" for those in need of protection. Instead, it's crucial to establish clear, unambiguous rules and enforce them without prejudice to protect the maximum number of people. A recent example of this issue can be seen in the case of Dana Rivers, who claimed to be trans and invaded women's spaces, leading to violence and ultimately the deaths of two women and their adopted son. Despite his crimes, due to new laws, he is likely to be housed in a women's prison. This case underscores the importance of sensible rules and their consistent enforcement to prevent harm and protect the rights of all individuals.

    • The complexities of self-identification in women's spacesSelf-identification is a complex issue with implications for women's safety and rights in spaces like prisons, sports, and safe spaces. It's important to consider potential consequences and have nuanced discussions.

      The issue of self-identification and its implications, particularly in the context of women's spaces such as prisons, sports, and safe spaces, is a complex and nuanced issue. While some argue for the importance of self-identification and the right to define one's own gender, others warn of potential dangers and threats to the rights and safety of women. The discussion highlighted a specific case of a man, who despite being physically male and having a history of publishing misogynistic and violent content, identified as a woman and was housed in a women's prison. The argument against housing this individual in a women's prison is based on the potential harm and danger he could pose to other women. The case underscores the importance of considering the potential consequences of self-identification in situations where the safety and well-being of others are at stake. It also raises questions about the extent to which self-identification should override other factors, such as biological sex and criminal history. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes the need for thoughtful and nuanced discussions around these issues, rather than simplistic or one-sided arguments.

    • Logical inconsistency of erasing past crimes with new gender identityThe argument against erasing past crimes with new gender identity is that it's a logical inconsistency and a dangerous rationalization for excusing heinous actions, regardless of an individual's intent or mental state.

      The idea of identifying as innocent or having a new gender identity erase past crimes is a logically inconsistent concept. This was discussed in relation to the UK prison system, where nearly half of those identifying with synthetic sex identities have criminal records, specifically for sexual offenses. The argument was made that if we cannot discuss past achievements of individuals who have transitioned genders due to the concept of deadnaming, then it could potentially be used as an excuse for escaping responsibility for committing crimes. The example given was of a man who identified as female but had a history of hating women and committing violent crimes against them. The idea of dead identities not carrying over past crimes was also criticized for being a dangerous rationalization for excusing heinous actions. It's important to remember that intent and mental state do matter when considering criminal actions, regardless of an individual's gender identity.

    • Self-identification and Tragic ConsequencesThe tragic murder of a black lesbian couple and their adopted son by a former teacher, who identified as a trans woman, highlights the dangers of discretionary self-identification rules and the importance of dispassionate analysis in policy-making.

      The idea of self-identification and the potential misuse of such a concept was brought into sharp focus by a tragic event involving a former teacher who murdered a black lesbian couple and their adopted son. This individual, who identified as a trans woman, should not be excused or protected by the media due to his heinous actions. The progressive stack, which suggests that individuals with more historical injustices have more rights to speak, does not justify the brutal killing of innocent people. This event serves as a stark reminder of the potential dangers of discretionary self-identification rules and the importance of dispassionate analysis in policy-making. The media's handling of this case, which involved downplaying the significance of the murders and making excuses for the perpetrator, is concerning and highlights the need for critical examination of these issues. Ultimately, the tragic deaths of these individuals underscore the importance of maintaining a clear understanding of the potential consequences of our actions and policies.

    • Power disregards logic and evidencePowerful individuals or groups can push through arguments with little merit, disregarding logical reasoning and evidence-based decision making

      The power dynamic in policy making has shifted, allowing arguments with little merit to carry the day, despite mounting evidence to the contrary. This trend is concerning as it disregards the importance of logical reasoning and evidence-based decision making. The individuals or groups with the power to push their arguments through, regardless of their accuracy, are able to maintain their stance, even when faced with overwhelming evidence to the contrary. This is a departure from traditional logic and could signal the beginning of a new era where facts and evidence are disregarded in favor of power and influence. It's important to remain critical of arguments and to demand evidence-based decision making, especially in areas of public policy.

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    Benn et al 2023. Randomized clinical trials of COVID-19 vaccines: Do adenovirus-vector vaccines have beneficial non-specific effects?. Iscience, 26(5): https://portal.findresearcher.sdu.dk/en/publications/randomized-clinical-trials-of-covid-19-vaccines-do-adenovirus-vec

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    Kennedy 2023. The Wuhan Cover-Up and the Terrifying Bio-Weapons Arms Race: https://www.skyhorsepublishing.com/9781510773981/the-wuhan-cover-up/

    Kuo et al 2000. Retargeting of coronavirus by substitution of the spike glycoprotein ectodomain: crossing the host cell species barrier. Journal of virology, 74(3):1393-1406: https://journals.asm.org/doi/full/10.1128/jvi.74.3.1393-1406.2000

    Rodríguez-Montes et al 2023. Sex-biased gene expression across mammalian organ development and evolution. Science 382(6670), p.eadf1046: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adf1046

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