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    #164 Science, Race, Death, and (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

    en-usMarch 04, 2023
    What unexpected absences are mentioned on the podcast?
    Where is Zach currently hiding from authorities?
    What topics are discussed instead of a Q&A session?
    How does the speaker link natural motivators to substance abuse?
    What concerns does the speaker raise about societal risks?

    Podcast Summary

    • Unexpected absences and changes in production processDespite Annette's absence and Zach's hiding from the marshals, the team continues the podcast, discussing topics like science, race, death, and sex in a philosophical manner. New subscribers to Natural Selections are welcomed, and honest conversations are encouraged in Patreon and Discord communities.

      This week on the Dark Horse Podcast, we're facing some unexpected absences. Annette, who we've been sending checks to, was discovered to not be working at the bowling alley we assumed was her address. Meanwhile, Zach is on the run from the marshal service and currently hiding in Antarctica. These circumstances have led to some changes in the production process. Additionally, we're not holding a Q&A session during this livestream. Instead, we'll be discussing topics like science, race, death, and sex in a more philosophical manner. The team, consisting of doctors Brett Weinstein and Heather Heying, are grateful for the support of new subscribers to Natural Selections, which was recently featured on Substack. In the piece "Apparently We're the Bad Guys," Brett addressed common criticisms against them and provided evidence of their correct calls, as well as their errors. The audience is invited to join Patreon conversations and access the Discord community for honest discussions on various topics.

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    • The Inca Empire's Trade Network and Ancient TrailsThe Inca Empire's trade network ensured food supply during famine. Ancient trails like Yumbo in Ecuador serve as reminders of past civilizations. Incorporating superfoods like lucuma and coconut palm sugar into daily routine can promote energy and build morning rituals.

      The Inca Empire, though known for conquest and subjugation, also created a robust and interconnected trade network that provided for its people, even during times of famine. Another takeaway is the discovery of ancient trails, like the Yumbo trails in Ecuador, which have deepened over time and serve as a reminder of the ancient civilizations that once inhabited the land. Additionally, incorporating superfoods like lucuma and coconut palm sugar into your daily routine, as part of a brand like MUDWTR, can help promote sustained energy and build a morning ritual. MUDWTR is an organic, non-GMO, gluten-free, vegan, and kosher certified product that offers a warm and spicy flavor, perfect for hot drinks or smoothies. Use the code "darkhorse" for a 15% discount at mudwtr.com.

    • The Inca and Canari: A Symbiotic RelationshipThe Inca civilization had complex interactions with other pre-Columbian cultures, leading to cultural exchange and shared ruins, challenging the notion of Inca dominance in the Andean region.

      The Inca civilization, contrary to popular belief, had complex interactions with other pre-Columbian cultures, such as the Canari. Instead of enslaving them, the Inca employed the Canari as trail runners and messengers. This symbiotic relationship led to cultural exchange and the formation of shared ruins like Incapurca. This challenges the notion that the Inca were the sole dominant force in the Andean region. Moreover, the discussion touched upon the controversial statements made by Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert, regarding race and safety. While some criticized the hosts for their stance on the issue, it was emphasized that moving to an island and advocating for segregation are two distinct concepts. The exchange highlighted the importance of understanding context and the potential consequences of one's words. Overall, the conversation underscored the intricacies of ancient civilizations and the need for nuanced discussions on contemporary issues.

    • Importance of recording facts without interpretationsBeing mindful of recording facts without interpretations leads to more accurate and meaningful scientific discoveries.

      It's crucial to distinguish between facts and interpretations when observing and conducting scientific research. The speaker emphasized this point through the example of his work with poison frogs in Madagascar. He highlighted the importance of meticulously recording observations without adding interpretations, as doing so can lead to confusion and inaccuracies. The speaker also noted that the human mind is wired to make assumptions and use heuristics, but these shortcuts can hinder the discovery of truly new and complex phenomena. Therefore, it's essential to be aware of this tendency and make a conscious effort to observe and record facts without interpreting them, allowing for more accurate and meaningful scientific discoveries.

    • Understanding Situations vs Jumping to ConclusionsAvoid jumping to conclusions and make a conscious effort to understand situations before making decisions. Recognize that there can be real threats from individuals, but avoid making assumptions about entire groups based on demographic markers.

      It's crucial to avoid jumping to conclusions and instead, make a conscious effort to truly understand situations. This was discussed in relation to a personal decision to move to an island, which was not solely driven by discomfort with people on the mainland, but also by other factors. However, it's important to acknowledge that there can be real threats from individuals, and it's not naive or foolish to take steps to protect oneself. This is different from making assumptions about entire groups of people based on demographic markers, which is a form of racism. The real issue lies in the governance and enforcement of laws in a community, which can impact everyone's safety and well-being.

    • The Exodus of Law Enforcement Officers and the Impact of Divisive IdeologiesThe lack of support and appreciation for law enforcement during 2020 led to a significant number of officers leaving their jobs. Divisive ideologies, such as 'all cops are bastards,' can radicalize individuals and harm meritocracy and humanity.

      The law enforcement situation in certain cities during 2020 led to a significant exodus of officers due to a lack of support and appreciation, making recruitment efforts challenging. Additionally, the spread of divisive and potentially racist ideologies, such as the "all cops are bastards" campaign, created an environment where even well-intentioned individuals could become radicalized and more racist. The survey results reported by Scott Adams, if real, may be a symptom of this larger issue. It's essential to recognize the importance of standing together as Americans, especially during times of division, and to focus on individual merit rather than demographic markers. The distinction between intent and impact is crucial, and functionally racist pronouncements, regardless of motivation, can contribute to the end of meritocracy and humanity.

    • Observations vs InterpretationsBe aware of the difference between facts and interpretations to avoid misunderstandings and disagreements.

      The distinction between observations and interpretations is crucial in understanding our world. Observations are facts, while interpretations are our understanding of those facts. However, it's not uncommon for people to conflate the two, leading to misunderstandings and disagreements. This was evident in the discussion about a controversial statement, which was criticized for being racist even if the person making it wasn't racist. The statement was based on a survey, and while the observation was factual, the interpretation of the data was what caused controversy. This conflation of observations and interpretations was also prevalent during the summer and fall of 2020, particularly around COVID and woke ideology. People were often told things as facts, but they were actually interpretations wrapped in language. It's essential to be aware of this and to always question what we're being told, ensuring that we're dealing with facts and not just interpretations. The distinction between observations and interpretations is a powerful tool for making sense of the world, but it's essential to use it correctly.

    • Focus on meaning and intentions in communicationEffective communication requires understanding the underlying emotions and intentions, not just the words spoken.

      Effective communication, especially in interpersonal situations, often requires focusing on the meaning behind the words rather than the words themselves. The human mind can be easily misled by irrelevant details, leading to misunderstandings and different interpretations of events. This is particularly important in complex situations where emotions run high, such as romantic disputes. By turning down the "sound" of the communication and focusing on the underlying emotions and intentions, it becomes clearer what is truly going on. However, this isn't always the case in every situation, especially in academic or formal settings where precise language and details are crucial. It's essential to recognize the importance of meaning and intention in communication and to be aware of the potential for misunderstandings caused by focusing too much on the words themselves.

    • Courageous journalism revealing government duplicityThe Pentagon Papers exposed the Johnson administration's misrepresentation of US involvement in Vietnam, demonstrating the importance of transparency and challenging the status quo. The Rumsfeldian paradox suggests people prefer known risks over unknown risks, impacting decisions from vaccinations to military strategies.

      The release of the Pentagon Papers by Daniel Ellsberg, despite the potential legal jeopardy, was an act of courageous journalism that revealed the duplicitousness of the Johnson administration's narrative on the US role in Vietnam. Ellsberg understood the importance of institutional knowledge and the need for transparency, even if it meant challenging the status quo. Another intriguing idea discussed was the Rumsfeldian paradox, which suggests people tend to prefer known risks over unknown risks, even if the unknown risks might have a higher potential payoff. This paradox has implications for various situations, such as the choice between getting vaccinated or facing COVID-19. It's essential to consider the odds and potential outcomes of both known and unknown risks to make informed decisions. The discussion also highlighted Ellsberg's intellectual contributions, including his description of this paradox, which adds to his significance in history.

    • Daniel Ellsberg's Gratitude and Determination in the Face of CancerDespite a terminal cancer diagnosis, Daniel Ellsberg expresses gratitude for good health and continues to fight for causes he believes in, inspiring us to persevere in the face of personal challenges.

      Daniel Ellsberg, a historically important figure known for releasing the Pentagon Papers and his courage in the face of adversity, recently announced his terminal diagnosis of pancreatic cancer at the age of 91. Despite his diagnosis, he expressed gratitude for his current good health and quality of life. This brought to mind the experience of losing my father after a severe heart attack, and how the presence of loved ones can have a profound impact on recovery. It also highlights the importance of continuing efforts towards causes one believes in, even in the face of personal challenges. Ellsberg's grace and determination in the face of his diagnosis serve as an inspiration to keep going.

    • Embracing reality: Facing challenges and finding meaningFacing difficult situations like terminal illness can lead to profound experiences. Distinguish between ending suffering and seeking relief to avoid drastic measures and save lives.

      Facing the reality of a difficult situation, such as a terminal illness, can lead to meaningful and profound experiences for both the individual and those around them. Daniel Ellsberg's decision to openly share his diagnosis and continue living his life is a model for dealing with such challenges. However, it's important to note that death may end suffering but not bring relief. This misconception may lead some people to consider suicide as a solution to their pain. Relief is a somatic and cognitive experience, and the end of consciousness means the end of relief. It's crucial to differentiate between ending suffering and seeking relief. Additionally, the belief that one's death would be a relief to loved ones is often false. The loss of a loved one, especially through suicide, can be a significant burden. Therefore, it's essential to confront the suffering itself and not seek to escape it through drastic means. In summary, embracing the reality of a challenging situation and understanding the distinction between ending suffering and seeking relief can lead to valuable experiences and potentially save lives.

    • Ayla's thread sparks debate on individual freedom and societal normsAyla's openness about her personal life and beliefs led to controversy, questioning if there's a valid reason to restrict individual sexual expression.

      Ayla, a Twitter user with the handle Ayla_girl, has gained notoriety for addressing uncomfortable topics through public polls and questions. Her recent thread expressed frustration over negative responses from traditional individuals towards her views on individualism and sexual freedom. While some may view her actions as self-aware and provocative, others find her behavior inconsistent and provocative. The question at hand is whether there is justification for the backlash against Ayla's actions or if it infringes on her freedom as a human entitled to live her life as she chooses. Ayla's openness about her polyamorous lifestyle and her belief in personal freedom have sparked controversy, leading to the question of whether there is a valid reason to restrict individual sexual expression. Ultimately, Ayla's thread highlights the ongoing debate surrounding individual freedom and societal norms, and the importance of considering the potential consequences of one's actions.

    • Balancing individual freedoms and societal limits in relationshipsThe ongoing debate explores the tension between personal choices and societal expectations, recognizing the evolving role of sex in our lives and the importance of finding a balance.

      The ongoing debate between traditional and non-traditional relationships raises questions about individual freedoms and societal limits. Civilization imposes certain restrictions in exchange for stability and security, but the application of these rules to modern contexts, particularly regarding sexuality and reproductive rights, is complex. The evolution of technology, such as birth control, has expanded personal freedoms, but it also raises concerns about potential harm to societal values and the next generation. Ultimately, the challenge is to find a balance between individual choices and societal expectations, recognizing that sex has evolved beyond mere reproduction for humans and plays a significant role in our emotional and social lives. The conversation should continue with a nuanced understanding of the importance of both personal freedoms and societal limits, and the role of morality, shame, and appreciation in shaping individual and collective behavior.

    • Ensuring societal stability for civilization's continuitySocietal stability is crucial for a civilization to thrive, and individual freedom should not compromise it. Monetizing and objectifying sexuality can undermine stability, and the sex positivity movement may not promote healthy relationships.

      As temporary custodians of a civilization that stretches back millions of years, our primary job is to ensure its continuity for future generations. While individual freedom is important, it should not come at the expense of societal stability, which is crucial for the development of art, creativity, science, and innovation. Monetizing and objectifying sexuality, as Ayla's example illustrates, can undermine the stability necessary for a civilization to thrive. The sex positivity movement, despite its name, may contribute to more "junk" sexual experiences and dehumanization rather than promoting healthy sexual relationships. The pleasure center in our brains, which is triggered by accomplishment and discovery, should ideally be activated through hard work and achievement, rather than being artificially stimulated without effort. Overall, societal stability and individual effort are essential for a civilization to flourish and produce competent, secure children who can contribute to the world.

    • Short-circuiting natural motivators can lead to dangerous consequencesEasily accessible natural motivators, such as pleasure or productivity, can lead to harmful behaviors if overused, potentially threatening civilization's development.

      Short-circuiting natural motivators, such as the pleasure of sex or productivity, can lead to dangerous consequences for individuals and civilization as a whole. This can be compared to the dangers of substance abuse, which also short-circuits natural rewards. The speaker argues that this is particularly problematic in a modern world where these motivators are easily accessible to anyone, potentially leading many to engage in unproductive or harmful behaviors. The speaker also questions the motivations of someone who monetizes their persona by promoting such behaviors and warns that this is not a scalable opportunity, as only a small number of people can do it successfully. Ultimately, the speaker suggests that engaging in these behaviors carries risks to civilization, as it challenges traditional structures and motivators that have contributed to its development. The speaker also emphasizes that it's important to consider the potential consequences of one's actions, beyond the immediate pleasures, and to be aware of the potential risks to both the individual and society.

    • Exploring Trans Identity and Non-Binary ExperiencesContinue the important conversation around trans identity and non-binary experiences, promote education and understanding for a more inclusive society, and practice open-mindedness and compassion.

      The upcoming episode on Natural Solutions will feature an in-depth exploration of trans identity and non-binary experiences in the longest anthology. This discussion is significant because it continues the important conversation around these topics, which are often misunderstood or overlooked. It's a reminder that education and understanding are crucial for creating a more inclusive and accepting society. So, remember to be good to the ones you love, eat well, and get outside. Be well, everyone. This message serves as a reminder to take care of ourselves and those around us while continuing to learn and grow. The exploration of trans identity and non-binary experiences is an ongoing conversation, and it's essential that we are open-minded and compassionate in our approach. Stay tuned for the upcoming episode for a deeper understanding of these topics.

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    Kennedy 2023. The Wuhan Cover-Up and the Terrifying Bio-Weapons Arms Race: https://www.skyhorsepublishing.com/9781510773981/the-wuhan-cover-up/

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