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    #60: Do Not Eat! (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

    en-usDecember 27, 2020

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    • The Interstitial Spaces of LifeDespite uncertainties, embrace the interstitial spaces in life and find meaning in transitions between moments.

      The period between holidays, such as Christmas and New Year's, can bring a unique mix of emotions. The speaker shares his personal experience of growing up with this sense of wistfulness and hope during this time. However, the discussion also touches on the uncertainty of the future, as the speaker expresses doubt about whether 2021 will be significantly better than the challenging year that was 2020. Despite the uncertainties, there is a sense of anticipation and determination to make the most of each moment. The conversation also includes a brief mention of various topics, such as locker rooms, climate change, and shrews, adding to the eclectic nature of the podcast. Overall, the discussion highlights the significance of embracing the interstitial spaces in life and finding meaning in the transitions between moments.

    • Reflecting on the past year and looking forward to the new oneUse the winter solstice and new year as a time for reflection and setting intentions for personal growth and positive change

      The period between the winter solstice and the new year holds a unique significance in various calendars and cultures, despite being an arbitrary construct. This interstitial time feels liminal and potentially transformative, inviting us to reflect on the past year and consider the possibilities for the future. The ubiquitous nature of holidays like Christmas and the approaching new year further emphasize this sense of transition. This moment invites us to look back on the year that has passed and contemplate how we can make the next year something better, unexpected, and emergent. Though the exact timing of the new year may vary, the astronomical alignment of the solstice and the new year serves as a reminder of the cyclical nature of life.

    • Reflecting on the Past and Creating New TraditionsTake time during the year-end transition to reflect, reconsider the value of traditions, and establish new practices for personal growth.

      The delay between the end of one year and the start of the next, despite the challenges of 2020, can offer value by allowing time for reflection and personal growth. Traditions, whether annual or daily, can serve as reminders of past experiences and help us understand our present and future. The loss of normal traditions during this time may encourage us to reconsider their value and establish new ones. So, while it's unclear who "ate the silica gel" causing the events of 2020, we can all take collective action to resist the urge to consume harmful substances and instead focus on creating meaningful traditions and practices that enrich our lives.

    • Embracing new experiences as a familyTaking risks, making memories, and embracing new experiences, even in uncertain times, can lead to personal growth and discovery for both children and adults.

      Despite the challenges and risks, it's important to experience new things and make memories as a family. The discussion revolved around a family's rebellious decision to go skiing for the first time in years, despite the costs and risks. The boys, especially the younger one, took to skiing naturally, and the family was able to make the most of the experience before COVID ended the season abruptly. The conversation also touched upon the idea of embracing new experiences and not letting fear or uncertainty hold us back. The speaker shared how they had been hesitant to ski due to the costs and risks, but ultimately decided to take the plunge and create a memorable experience for their family. The boys' quick progress on the slopes served as a reminder of the potential for growth and discovery when we step out of our comfort zones. Furthermore, the speaker made a connection between the boys' quick adaptation to skiing and their natural abilities, but also acknowledged their own expertise in the sport. Overall, the conversation emphasized the importance of taking risks, making memories, and embracing new experiences, even in the face of uncertainty.

    • Unexpected benefits of skiing in learning electric unicyclingSkiing experience aids in learning electric unicycling due to similarities in balance and control

      The skills and experiences gained from one activity, such as skiing, can have unexpected benefits in other areas, like learning to ride an electric unicycle. The speaker shared how they had vast skiing experience but enjoyed goofing off on skis more than being an aggressive all-mountain skier. They also mentioned how skiing equipment has evolved significantly over the years. The speaker then discussed how two boys, who are coordinated and athletic, are learning to ride electric unicycles quickly. The unicycle, which has a single wheel with pedals on either side and is motorized, requires balance and control, similar to skiing. The speaker found the reverse relationship between weight and direction on an electric unicycle compared to skiing intriguing. Despite the differences, the speaker emphasized the similarities between the two activities and the importance of trusting one's body and tools to avoid failure. The speaker plans to explore electric unicycling further and record a podcast on the topic.

    • The differences between biking and skiingBiking allows us to overcome large obstacles with appropriate tires while skiing requires us to manage our low center of gravity. Climate change poses a risk to methane clathrates in the Arctic, potentially releasing large amounts of methane and contributing to global warming.

      While there may be some similarities between biking and skiing, such as the experience of moving at a fast and safe pace, the ways in which we control ourselves in these two sports are distinct. Biking allows us to barrel over large obstacles with appropriate tires, while skiing requires us to deal with our low center of gravity in a more precarious way, similar to other sports like skateboarding or riding an electric unicycle. Another significant topic discussed was the potential impact of anthropogenic climate change on frozen methane clathrates in the Arctic. These structures hold methane stable in a frozen form, but as global temperatures rise, there is a risk that this methane could be released, contributing significantly to global warming. This is a major concern due to the vast amounts of methane trapped in the Arctic, which far surpasses the amount humans contribute to global warming.

    • Methane in the Arctic: A Potential Feedback LoopThe Arctic's methane, a potent greenhouse gas, is at risk of being released due to warming temperatures, potentially leading to a feedback loop of warmer temperatures causing more methane release, and vice versa. Monitoring and reducing greenhouse gas emissions are crucial to prevent a catastrophic rise in global temperatures.

      The Arctic region, particularly in Siberia, holds large quantities of methane, a potent greenhouse gas, which is currently stable due to being frozen. However, as the Earth warms, this methane is at risk of being released, potentially leading to a feedback loop where warmer temperatures cause more methane to be released, leading to even warmer temperatures. This could result in a point of no return where climate change is no longer controllable. There have been reports of large methane plumes in the Arctic, but without sufficient baseline data, it's unclear how alarming this is. The discovery of large craters in Siberia, possibly caused by methane releases, adds to the concern. The release of large amounts of methane could cause a rapid and potentially catastrophic rise in global temperatures, making it crucial to closely monitor the situation and take action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

    • Interaction of tides, methane hydrates, and permafrost in ArcticNew discovery suggests that rising sea levels could make it harder for methane hydrates in Arctic permafrost to be released, potentially acting as a buffer against methane release and climate change. More research needed to confirm implications.

      The interaction between tides and methane hydrates in the Arctic permafrost of the Yamal Peninsula in Siberia could potentially act as a buffer against methane release and climate change. The hypothesis suggests that as sea levels rise, the greater depth of water on top of the methane hydrates makes it harder for them to be liberated, reducing the likelihood of large methane plumes. This negative feedback could help mitigate the positive feedback loop of methane release contributing to further warming. However, it's important to note that this is a new discovery and more research is needed to confirm its implications. The Yamal Peninsula, which is currently dry land but low lying, could potentially become marshy with warming temperatures, and the permafrost beneath holds a significant amount of methane. This interaction between tides, methane hydrates, and permafrost in the Arctic is a complex issue with significant implications for climate change.

    • New methane discovery could impact climate changeScientists found methane in craters, a potential positive feedback in climate system, but investing in emission reductions and fusion power is more effective.

      Scientists discovered high levels of methane in craters, which could potentially be a positive feedback in the Earth's climate system. While this isn't a definitive solution to climate change, it's a rare piece of good news. However, the speaker believes that mitigating greenhouse gas emissions and investing in fusion power are more effective ways to address the issue. On a different note, the speaker discussed the phylogenetic meaning of the term "insectivore," explaining that it refers to the evolutionary lineage of animals that eat insects, not just their current diet. The speaker also clarified the difference between tetrapods and quadrupeds, and addressed some misconceptions about the terms. Overall, the key takeaway is the importance of understanding scientific concepts in their correct context and the ongoing need for investment in sustainable energy solutions.

    • Shrews' skulls shrink during winter and regrow in springShrews adapt to winter by shrinking their skulls, conserving energy and potentially increasing survival chances

      Shrews, which are not rodents but part of the insectivore group, exhibit a fascinating biological phenomenon where their skulls shrink in size during winter and regrow in the spring. This observation was first made by Polish zoologist Auguste Danelle in 1949, but recent studies have confirmed this phenomenon through individual tracking. Shrews do not hibernate and need to maintain their energy levels to survive the winter, so shrinking their entire skull, not just the brain, might help them conserve resources. This adaptation, known as Danelle's phenomenon, is also observed in weasels, a carnivorous mammal not closely related to shrews. The adaptive advantage of this phenomenon is still debated, but it may help shrews survive the winter by reducing their energy requirements.

    • Discovering Shrews' Ability to Shrink BonesShrews can reverse bone growth and even shrink, challenging our understanding of mammalian skeletal development, and larger brain size in mammals may be a result of evolutionary reasons to offset risks associated with larger brain cases.

      Birds, unlike mammals, have determinant growth, meaning they reach a certain size as adults and their skeletons do not continue to extend. However, recent findings suggest that some mammals, like shrews, may have the ability to not only reverse changes in bone growth but actually shrink. This is different from organisms with indeterminate growth, such as fish, crocodiles, and lizards, which continue to grow throughout their lives. This discovery challenges our understanding of skeletal growth and development in mammals and highlights the importance of considering evolutionary reasons for brain size and growth. The brain is an expensive organ to maintain, and the size of the brain case increases vulnerability and mortality risks. Therefore, the evolution of larger brains in mammals likely serves a purpose. The findings about shrews add to the complexity of our understanding of bone growth and development in mammals.

    • Animals economize brain size and organs during harsh conditionsSome animals adapt to scarce resources by shrinking neural structures or losing organs, which can be rebuilt when resources return.

      Certain animals, like shrews, may be able to economize their brain size during certain seasons to save resources. This shrinking process might not involve the loss of neurons, but rather the collapse of neural structures, which could be rebuilt when resources become available again. This adaptation could help these animals survive in harsh environments where resources are scarce. However, the exact mechanisms of this process are still not fully understood. Another interesting fact discussed was the ability of migrating songbirds to lose and regrow certain organs, such as their testes, to reduce the weight they carry during migration. This phenomenon could also be related to the concept of economizing resources. During the conversation, there was also a mention of a controversial topic regarding transgender athletes in sports. The speakers discussed the potential implications of allowing transgender athletes to compete in women's sports, using a local news story from Olympia, Washington, as an example. They planned to show a video related to this topic and discuss it further.

    • Transgender use of facilities: complexities and challengesEducation, understanding, and clear communication are crucial in addressing conflicts over transgender individuals using facilities that align with their gender identity, ensuring respect for all privacy and safety.

      The issue of transgender individuals using facilities that align with their gender identity raises complex questions and potential conflicts, particularly in shared spaces like locker rooms. In the reported incident at Evergreen State College, a trans woman, born male, was using the women's locker room, which was also used by local high school swim teams. Some parents and students became uncomfortable and requested a solution, leading to the temporary separation of facilities for the swim teams. The situation highlights the need for education and understanding, as well as the potential challenges in implementing policies that aim to accommodate all individuals while respecting everyone's privacy and safety. The incident also underscores the importance of clear communication and empathy in navigating these complex issues.

    • Protecting women's rights and safety in gender-segregated spacesInstitutions must prioritize the protection of women and girls in gender-segregated spaces, ensuring their rights and safety are respected, while recognizing the importance of separate spaces and protections based on biological differences.

      Institutions have an obligation to protect the rights and safety of women and girls, particularly in gender-segregated spaces. The comparison of trans issues to historical civil rights struggles was deemed inappropriate and despicable, as the situation involves the potential for physical harm and power imbalance between genders. The onus is on institutions to prioritize the protection of those most vulnerable and ensure that the rights of all individuals are respected. The biological differences between men and women justify the need for separate spaces and protections, which do not change based on an individual's gender identity. The recent incident discussed highlights the importance of addressing these issues with sensitivity and understanding, while prioritizing the safety and privacy of all individuals.

    • Transgender rights in women's spacesUnderstanding and respecting trans women's identities is crucial for inclusive spaces. Avoid reducing women to stereotypes and respect individual rights. Be inclusive and nuanced in approach.

      The discussion revolves around the issue of transgender individuals in women's spaces and the need for protection and respect for all involved. The speaker expresses concern over the potential for abuse of the system by unscrupulous individuals, but also emphasizes the importance of understanding and respecting the experiences and identities of trans women. They criticize regressive views that reduce women to stereotypes and deny the validity of trans identities. The speaker advocates for a more nuanced and inclusive approach, focusing on the importance of respecting individual rights and identities. The interview discussed in the podcast, featuring a trans woman presenting in a feminine manner, is criticized for perpetuating misogynistic and regressive views of women. The speaker also mentions their upcoming private Q&A session for patrons and invites new patrons to join and participate.

    • Engaging with Dark Horse: Discord, Patreon, and EmailJoin Dark Horse's Discord server or follow their Patreon pages for updates on new content. For specific inquiries, email darkhorse.moderator@gmail.com.

      Brett and his team are offering various ways for fans to engage with their content. They have a Discord server, where clips from their longer discussions are shared regularly. They also have merchandise available on their Patreon pages. For specific inquiries, fans can email darkhorse.moderator@gmail.com. They will be back with new content in the New Year. If you're only listening, they'll be back then as well. In the meantime, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Brett mentioned that they would be releasing new content soon, but the specifics were not discussed in detail during the recording. So, if you're interested in their work and want to stay updated, joining their Discord server or following their Patreon pages would be the best way to do so.

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    Nature editorial: What happens when climate change and the mental-health crisis collide? https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00993-x

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